From a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:46:30 +0100 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:46:30 +0100 From: Anton Chterenlikht a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] adobe software limitations Will this be of any use for getting more attention from security specialists? Why these are only antivirus programs? Can it be the case that Adobe security acts like a worm? (I'm absolutely ignorent in this) McAfee is mandatory for all Sheff Uni computers.. So I cannot try this Adobe program even if I want to. anton The following is from Adobe eBook Reader web page: ------------------------------------------------------ Known Defects and Limitations Incompatible Programs The following programs are not compatible with the Acrobat eBook Reader: Inoculan AntiVirus 4.0 Older versions of McAfee antivirus software (current versions are compatible) McAfee (formerly Cybermedia) First Aid 95, 98, or 2000 McAfee (formerly Cybermedia) Guard Dog McAfee (formerly Cybermedia) Oil Change Mijenix SystemSuite 2000 IBM AntiVirus 95, version 3.x Adobe recommends that you remove these programs before you install the Acrobat eBook Reader. The Acrobat eBook Reader's security implementation does not allow you to execute program debuggers on your computer while the Acrobat eBook Reader is running. From a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Fri, 27 Jul 2001 14:02:59 +0100 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 14:02:59 +0100 From: Anton Chterenlikht a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Dmitry's address This message was just posted on zork.net. Please write Dmitry a leter anton -------------------- Alex Fabrikant has obtained a mailing address for Dmitry Sklyarov: Dmitry Sklyarov (note "aka Skylarov") North Las Vegas Dept of Detention/Correction 2222 Constitution Way / North Las Vegas, NV 89030 Note that Sklyarov could be moved at any time, so you may send him letters, but it's not guaranteed that he will receive them. This address was confirmed as valid as of Thursday. Sklyarov would no doubt enjoy receiving your messages of encouragement. It's probably not particularly fruitful to make requests of him (what with his being locked up in jail). Also note that prison officials are permitted to read his mail, as well as to censor certain kinds of correspondence. I don't know whether mail in Russian will be delayed; the prison officials would no doubt be happier if you wrote in English. If he is moved to San Jose, it should be straightforward to get a new address and pass that along. We can all hope that the EFF's discussions today at Acting U.S. Attorney Shapiro's office are successful and that there will be no need for any future mailing address outside of Moscow. From free-sklyarov at effector.xenoclast.org Fri, 27 Jul 2001 14:03:53 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 14:03:53 +0100 (BST) From: Julian T. J. Midgley free-sklyarov at effector.xenoclast.org Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] adobe software limitations On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Anton Chterenlikht wrote: > Will this be of any use for getting more attention > from security specialists? > Why these are only antivirus programs? > Can it be the case that Adobe security acts like a > worm? > (I'm absolutely ignorent in this) It sounds more like Adobe's program interacts poorly with some of the usual acivities of anti-virus programs. Certainly the eBook Reader doesn't do anything remotely virus or worm like. It's well known that virus detection tools can produce false positives. Also, since Adobe are keen to prevent you pulling the plain text copy of your book out of the Reader, it seems they have implemented measures to prevent random programs poking around in it's allocated memory, and elements of some anti-virus software might well do this. All in all, I doubt there's any useful ammunition here. All the best, Julian -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F From a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Fri, 27 Jul 2001 14:44:55 +0100 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 14:44:55 +0100 From: Anton Chterenlikht a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] letter to usa embassy 27 July 2001 Glyn T. Davies Minister 24 Grosvenor Square London W1A 1AE UK Anton Chterenlikht my address Phone: +44 07966140794 Email: a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Dear Mr Davies, Re: United States v. Dmitry Sklyarov I was completely stunned when I found out that my friend, Dmitry Sklyarov, was arrested in Las Vegas on 17 July 2001 after he made a presentation on DefCon conference. I have known Dmitry for more then ten years now (since 1991), both as a bright student at Moscow State Technical University (BMSTU) and then as a top-level researcher in electronic security. He is a supportive, law abiding, husband and a father of two young children who has never taken part in any illegal activities. That is why this news and the accusation were so devastating for me. The initial accusation can be obtained from: http://www.usaondca.com/press/html/2001_07_17_sklyarov.html This case has already received a lot of attention from the USA, UK and international media (CNN, BBC, New York Times, New Scientist etc.); moreover some of the leading British scientists expressed their opinion. Alan Cox, one of the leading developers of Linux operating system said: =93With the arrest of Dimitry Sklyarov it has become apparent that it is not safe for non US software engineers to visit the United States. While he was undoubtedly chosen for political reasons as a Russian as a good example for the US public the risk extends arbitrarily further. Until the DMCA mess is resolved I would urge all non US citizens to boycott conferences in the USA and all US conference bodies to hold their conferences elsewhere.=94 Ross Anderson, a reader in security engineering at Cambridge University said that =93there is a question whether it will be prudent to hold certain types of security conferences in the U.S. in the future.(=85) We can't really tolerate a situation where anyone who breaks a system that embarrasses someone gets served with a writ.=94 I have already written three letters to the US Department of Justice, Northern District of California asking for immediate and thorough investigation of this case but have not received any reply yet. I am writing to you, sir, because I am deeply concerned that this accident might seriously damage well-established communication between American and British scientists. This is very worrying. Can I therefore ask you, sir, to use your authority and investigate this case as a matter of urgency. I really believe that Dmitry is innocent and should be free. At the moment he is at Northern Las Vegas Department of Detention but can be transferred to San Francisco at any time. He has been in custody for 10 days now and I understandably worry for him. I would be happy if you will find the time to let me know about your thoughts on this case. Thanks a lot, Yours Sincerely, ______________________________________ Anton Chterenlikht From jtjm at xenoclast.org Fri, 27 Jul 2001 15:14:25 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 15:14:25 +0100 (BST) From: Julian T. J. Midgley jtjm at xenoclast.org Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] UK Resources Page I have set up a UK resources page at: http://www.xenoclast.org/freesklyarov/ At the moment it merely contains a link to the mailing list page and a few useful addresses. Suggestions for other useful content would be most welcome. (I have avoided providing much background to the Sklyarov case, as www.freesklyarov.org and the EFF site do a good job of this - I've provided links to these sites instead.) All the best, Julian -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F From danny at spesh.com Fri, 27 Jul 2001 07:32:49 -0700 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 07:32:49 -0700 From: Danny O'Brien danny at spesh.com Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] UK Resources Page On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 03:14:25PM +0100, Julian T. J. Midgley wrote: > I have set up a UK resources page at: > > http://www.xenoclast.org/freesklyarov/ > > At the moment it merely contains a link to the mailing list page and a few > useful addresses. Suggestions for other useful content would be most > welcome. (I have avoided providing much background to the Sklyarov case, > as www.freesklyarov.org and the EFF site do a good job of this - I've > provided links to these sites instead.) > You might want to include a link to faxyourmp.com -- it's a useful resource for campaigns like this. (Declared interest: I'm involved in FYMP, but it's a not-for-profit volunteer effort. All you'll be doing if you go there is depleting our phone-bill funds) I'll put in a link in this week's NTK. d. > All the best, > > Julian > > -- > Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org > Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F > > > > _______________________________________________ > Free-sklyarov-uk mailing list > Free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org > http://mailman.xenoclast.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov-uk > From a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Fri, 27 Jul 2001 15:50:49 +0100 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 15:50:49 +0100 From: Anton Chterenlikht a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Re: Dmitry Sklyarov Thanks for your attention Graham, Being honest I was very disappointed by their attitude but.. what can I do.. Julian has created a "Free Sklyarov Campaign - UK Co-ordination Site" at http://www.xenoclast.org/freesklyarov/ Maybe you'll find the time to look at it. Yes, I do not think this case is an Amnesty International issue. We can only try to tell more people about it Thanks anton Graham Jones wrote: > Dear Anton > > Yes, your message came over well on Radio Sheffield yesterday. I think you > raised some of the issues more clearly than the websites which you > suggested! > > Although I am horrified by many aspects of this case, I don't really trhink > Dmitri Sklyarov is a prisoner of conscience but I will rely on you to let me > know more facts if you think he is. > > There was a good article in The Moscow Times (on line)yesterday on his case > which I will post on the AI former USSR smartgroup site to publicise it a > little more. > > With best regards > > Graham Jones From ath at limm.mgimo.ru Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:54:11 +0400 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:54:11 +0400 From: Ilya V. Vasilyev ath at limm.mgimo.ru Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] [free-sklyarov] Re: UK Free-Sklyarov Mailing List Hi, Seth David Schoen! > Everyone who has spoken to or corresponded with Oksana Sklyarov, Oksana Sklyarova -- she's a woman. - - - Ilya V. Vasilyev Civil Hackers' School Moscow Center +7(095)162-4767 http://server23.net/user/ath/ From jtjm at xenoclast.org Fri, 27 Jul 2001 16:36:36 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 16:36:36 +0100 (BST) From: Julian T J Midgley jtjm at xenoclast.org Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] UK Resources Page On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Danny O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 03:14:25PM +0100, Julian T. J. Midgley wrote: > > I have set up a UK resources page at: > > > > http://www.xenoclast.org/freesklyarov/ > > > > At the moment it merely contains a link to the mailing list page and a few > > useful addresses. Suggestions for other useful content would be most > > welcome. (I have avoided providing much background to the Sklyarov case, > > as www.freesklyarov.org and the EFF site do a good job of this - I've > > provided links to these sites instead.) > > > > You might want to include a link to faxyourmp.com -- it's a useful > resource for campaigns like this. Yup - good idea - I've added the link. All the best, Julian -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F From alexf at hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu Fri, 27 Jul 2001 10:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 10:50:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Fabrikant alexf at hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Re: [free-sklyarov] Re: UK Free-Sklyarov Mailing List On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Ilya V. Vasilyev wrote: > Hi, Seth David Schoen! > > Everyone who has spoken to or corresponded with Oksana Sklyarov, > Oksana Sklyarova -- she's a woman. Ilya -- The US media WILL get confused by changing last names. For the purposes of any form of releases to the US media, we're best off sticking to just "Sklyarov" (as is the convention here for all [Slavic and otherwise] gender-tagged last names around here). -- -alexf From ath at limm.mgimo.ru Fri, 27 Jul 2001 22:37:14 +0400 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 22:37:14 +0400 From: Ilya V. Vasilyev ath at limm.mgimo.ru Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] [free-sklyarov] Re: UK Free-Sklyarov Mailing List Hi, Alex! > > > Everyone who has spoken to or corresponded with Oksana Sklyarov, > > Oksana Sklyarova -- she's a woman. > The US media WILL get confused by changing last names. For the purposes of > any form of releases to the US media, So only friendly media would speak correct -- its easy. I think, EFF can remember that Oksana is "Sklyarova", as a woman, and Dmitry is "Sklyarov", as a man. > we're best off sticking to just > "Sklyarov" (as is the convention here for all [Slavic and otherwise] > gender-tagged last names around here). So we must say "Alla Pugachev", "Valentina Tereshkov" ;-) I don't insist, just say, that "Oksana Sklyarova" is correct. And willn't make problems i.e. if she will be invited to the court or desided to get from Adobe a moral compensation. Because, as I guess, her international passport name is "Oksana Sklyarova". - - - Ilya V. Vasilyev Civil Hackers' School Moscow Center +7(095)162-4767 http://server23.net/user/ath/ From rich at copsewood.net Sat, 28 Jul 2001 10:17:13 -0400 Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 10:17:13 -0400 From: Richard Kay rich at copsewood.net Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Copy of letter sent to US Ambassador I'm glad to see the UK based activity in the Free-Sklyarov campaign having just checked the archives and joined the UK list. The letter below was sent a few days ago. I agree that there is some scope for getting UK software academics to avoid US conferences. Richard Kay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Kay Senior Lecturer in Software Engineering, Technology Innovation Centre, University of Central England, Perry Barr, Birmingham, B42 2SU. Richard.Kay at uce.ac.uk Monday 23rd July 2001 The Ambassador, US Embassy, 24 Grosvenor Square London, W1A 1AE Dear Ambassador, I am writing to express my disgust concerning the way the FBI has conducted itself with regards to Dmitry Sklyarov a Russian programmer now wrongfully imprisoned in the US. Mr. Sklyarov gave a talk at a computer security conference in the US on the security weaknesses of Adobe's eBook product, which were apparently easily discovered. Instead of thanking Mr. Sklyarov for his work, the Adobe software company complained to the FBI who detained Mr. Sklyarov for allegedly violating the Digital Millenium Copyright Act (DMCA). I do not dispute the principle that copyright holders should be free to apply encryption technology to secure their works. However, it is obvious (thanks to Elcomsoft, the Russian company Mr Sklyarov works for) the protection given by Adobe's eBook products is substandard and easily overcome. The field of study Mr Sklyarov is engaged in has entirely legitimate usages, for example, enabling Adobe eBook products to be used by blind people and those with other disabilities. The imprisonment of Mr Sklyarov - and this use of the DMCA - represents a threat to the freedom of expression of programmers and software academics everywhere, should we express our views on security issues affecting substandard products which the DMCA is apparently intended to protect and then be foolish enough to visit the US. It also presents a situation for programmers resident in the US which denies them basic freedoms which your constitution claims to protect. Software academics and programmers such as myself can, for certain purposes, only effectively express ourselves to our colleagues through the discussion and publication of program source code. Suppression of this right cannot be justified on the same or similar grounds that make slander, libel or shouting "Fire" in a crowded theatre offences. Those who deny fundamental human rights of freedom of expression become tyrants, and the countries they misrule become police states. I might also mention that developing competitive parts, systems or peripherals which comply with proprietary interfaces has long been considered fair use rather than a breach of copyright. Would you imprison consumer product reviewers if they published weaknesses in proprietary door locks to encourage substandard lock manufacturers to improve their products ? If not, then the DMCA must be repealed or amended if the good reputation of the US, as a place of freedom of expression and democracy, is not to suffer. Yours sincerely, Richard Kay From a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Sat, 28 Jul 2001 19:01:00 +0100 Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 19:01:00 +0100 From: Anton Chterenlikht a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] news from A. Katalov (Dmitry's director) EFF wasn't going to talk about Dmitry with US Attorney ("US A") at all. US A agreed with EFF at advance (before the meeting) that thay will talk only about DMCA in common, not about Dmitry. This was strongest condition and otherwise US A didn't wants to meet with them at all. Other bad news that EFF told today that they decided not to pay bail for Dmitry, because they don't have too much money, and they affraid to loose them in case if Dmitry "run" (i.e. leave the country and doesn't come to the hearing). And thei don't belive that Dmitry will not run. This is not their final decision yet, however, but they told that they will think about this a bit more, but this is their current position. One more news - it seems that Dmitry is now already on the way from Las Vegas to Sun Jose!!! Friday, July 27, 2001, 3:50:27 PM, you wrote: From a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Sat, 28 Jul 2001 19:03:08 +0100 Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 19:03:08 +0100 From: Anton Chterenlikht a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] From Alan Mackay -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: "Copyrights" Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 09:06:13 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) From: Alan Mackay To: Anton Chterenlikht I am pleased to see that your campaign has got good reports in Nature and in yoday's Guardian. yours, Alan Mackay Professor Alan L. Mackay, FRS, School of Crystallography, Birkbeck College, University of London, Malet Street, London WC1E 7HX dept. tel. 020-7631-6800 home tel 020-8883-4810 a.mackay at mail.cryst.bbk.ac.uk [This channel is not secure] From a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Sat, 28 Jul 2001 19:19:07 +0100 Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 19:19:07 +0100 From: Anton Chterenlikht a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Please send a fax Dear all, I've just received an email from Oxana Sklyarova (Dmitry's wife). Russian consul in San Francisco aksed her to teli everyone that they URGENTLY need letters of support for Dmitry. They need these letter by monday, 30 July, morning. This means by latest 4-5 pm monday. Please send your faxes for Nebyvaev Vladimir Alexandrovich at 001 415 929 0306. http://www.vldbros.com/consul/english/main.htm You can speak with him directly at 001 415 928 6878 if you wish. He is the person that deals with Dmitry's case. They don't need any technical details. Letters should be personal.Write that as you know from the press (or from anywhere else) he is a "good guy" (write as much as you can here) and you ask US DoJ to release him on bail. As I understand this mostly applies to friends but everyone is encouraged to write. Alex Katalov writes that Dmitry is probably already on his way to San Jose. This means that he can be in court on monday morning. In this case our letters might be very helpful. PLEASE anton From a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Sat, 28 Jul 2001 19:23:58 +0100 Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 19:23:58 +0100 From: Anton Chterenlikht a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] two articles http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/internetnews/story/0,7369,528767,00.HTML http://www.nature.com/cgi-taf/DynaPage.taf?file=/nature/journal/v412/n6845/full/412366a0_fs.html&_UserReference=C0A804EC46506C0D5D70F2D24C793B6301BA From jtjm at xenoclast.org Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:05:09 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:05:09 +0100 (BST) From: Julian T. J. Midgley jtjm at xenoclast.org Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests I have just received an email from the Planning Editor for ITN Radio, who is keen to cover any protests we might hold this week. Now that the EFF have held their meeting with the US Attorney, without significant result, which should get back to the task of planning the protests. At the last count, there were 17 people subscribed to the free-sklyarov-uk list - in the interests of ensuring as many people as possible are aware of the protests, please could those currently subscribed encourage as many sympathetic friends and acquaitances as possible to sign up. In the meantime, we should progress with plans for the protest itself. I take it that this Saturday (4 August) is the optimum date. To allow time for travel we should aim to kick-off between around 1200. How many of you are able to make it? Would it be a good idea to have a sign/banner making party at some suitable venue earlier in the morning (or the night before, if people think that appropriate)? Is there anyone on the list who has held similar protests in the UK before? (I've not done it myself, and am wondering whether we need to do anything such as arrange permits or notify the police, etc?) It would be good to get some news coverage, and it's very nice to know that we already have interest from one of the major news agencies. Free Dmitry! Julian Midgley Ps. I will try to drum up some more membership with a notice on the main freesklyarov mailing list. -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F From rich at copsewood.net Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:44:33 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:44:33 -0400 From: Richard Kay rich at copsewood.net Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests I think the best way to get the possibility of decent numbers on this protest by Saturday is to broaden the issue so that those involved in anti WTO activities generally are willing to adopt Free-Sklyarov and anti-DMCA as a cause directly connected with theirs, rather than this being an issue understood only by a very narrow and specialised group of hacktivists. I think some research into UK based anti-WTO lists and education there about the WTO extension of corporate intellectual property rights might enable a fairly quick escalation of support. Richard Kay rich at copsewood.net On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 01:05:09PM +0100, Julian T. J. Midgley wrote: > I have just received an email from the Planning Editor for ITN Radio, who > is keen to cover any protests we might hold this week. > > Now that the EFF have held their meeting with the US Attorney, without > significant result, which should get back to the task of planning the > protests. > > At the last count, there were 17 people subscribed to the free-sklyarov-uk > list - in the interests of ensuring as many people as possible are aware > of the protests, please could those currently subscribed encourage as many > sympathetic friends and acquaitances as possible to sign up. > > In the meantime, we should progress with plans for the protest itself. > > I take it that this Saturday (4 August) is the optimum date. To allow > time for travel we should aim to kick-off between around 1200. > > How many of you are able to make it? Would it be a good idea to have a > sign/banner making party at some suitable venue earlier in the morning (or > the night before, if people think that appropriate)? > > Is there anyone on the list who has held similar protests in the UK > before? (I've not done it myself, and am wondering whether we need > to do anything such as arrange permits or notify the police, etc?) > > It would be good to get some news coverage, and it's very nice to know > that we already have interest from one of the major news agencies. > > Free Dmitry! > > Julian Midgley > > > Ps. I will try to drum up some more membership with a notice on the main > freesklyarov mailing list. > > > -- > Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org > Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Free-sklyarov-uk mailing list > Free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org > http://mailman.xenoclast.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov-uk From jtjm at xenoclast.org Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:57:25 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:57:25 +0100 (BST) From: Julian T J Midgley jtjm at xenoclast.org Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Richard Kay wrote: > I think the best way to get the possibility of decent numbers on > this protest by Saturday is to broaden the issue so that those involved > in anti WTO activities generally are willing to adopt > Free-Sklyarov and anti-DMCA as a cause directly connected with theirs, > rather than this being an issue understood only by a very narrow and > specialised group of hacktivists. I think some research into UK based > anti-WTO lists and education there about the WTO extension of > corporate intellectual property rights might enable a fairly quick > escalation of support. This seems emminently sensible - do any of you have contact details for appropriate organisations. I'm going to do a web search, and prepare a letter explaining our position and the purpose of the protests. Julian -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F From a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:24:38 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:24:38 +0100 From: Anton Chterenlikht a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests I'm very concerned about anti WTO organisations. What are these? If these are "Globalise Resistance" or "Socialist Alliance" I would rather prefer not to inform them of our actions at all bearing in mind their attitude of getting the aim at all costs. I do think that these people can only make it worse for Dmitry. I do not want to give the prosecution any chance to associate Dmitry with any violent protest. On the other hand, any non-violent organisation which would put the "Free Dmitry" demand on the first place should be welcomed. Can I therefore ask everyone who is going to get the attention of third parties to be very cautious and careful. anton Julian T J Midgley wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Richard Kay wrote: > > > I think the best way to get the possibility of decent numbers on > > this protest by Saturday is to broaden the issue so that those involved > > in anti WTO activities generally are willing to adopt > > Free-Sklyarov and anti-DMCA as a cause directly connected with theirs, > > rather than this being an issue understood only by a very narrow and > > specialised group of hacktivists. I think some research into UK based > > anti-WTO lists and education there about the WTO extension of > > corporate intellectual property rights might enable a fairly quick > > escalation of support. > > This seems emminently sensible - do any of you have contact details for > appropriate organisations. I'm going to do a web search, and prepare a > letter explaining our position and the purpose of the protests. > > Julian > > -- > Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org > Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F > > _______________________________________________ > Free-sklyarov-uk mailing list > Free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org > http://mailman.xenoclast.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov-uk From DAckroyd at igl.co.uk Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:26:10 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:26:10 +0100 From: Dan Ackroyd DAckroyd at igl.co.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests I'm not sure that broadening the issues too far would be the best way to go, even though it might make more people come along to any demonstrations. The issue as it stands at the moment is very simple to explain: a Russian programmer has been arrested and charged for actions he took in Russia, and which he talked about in the U.S. Including talking about the anti-WTO would include many other issues which are more difficult to explain, and would not necessarily garner support from everyone (I, myself, am pro-trade but understand some of the things that people don't like about the WTO, but wouldn't personally go on a demonstration against it.) I suggest contacting other groups to see if they wish to support the 'Free Dmitry' campaign, but I think any protests we undertake should have a simple a message as possible. It might also get this campaign 'lumped' together with the other protests, at least in the eyes of the media, who always seems to like pigeonholeing people. Having said all that though, it probably would be a good idea to include anti-DMCA people or any anti-"European Union Copyright Directive" people,( sorry can't lookup the links right now, I have deadline in 3 hours)... Just my 2p. cheers Dan -----Original Message----- From: Julian T J Midgley [mailto:jtjm at xenoclast.org] Sent: 30 July 2001 13:57 To: Richard Kay Cc: free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org Subject: Re: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Richard Kay wrote: > I think the best way to get the possibility of decent numbers on > this protest by Saturday is to broaden the issue so that those involved > in anti WTO activities generally are willing to adopt > Free-Sklyarov and anti-DMCA as a cause directly connected with theirs, > rather than this being an issue understood only by a very narrow and > specialised group of hacktivists. I think some research into UK based > anti-WTO lists and education there about the WTO extension of > corporate intellectual property rights might enable a fairly quick > escalation of support. This seems emminently sensible - do any of you have contact details for appropriate organisations. I'm going to do a web search, and prepare a letter explaining our position and the purpose of the protests. Julian -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F _______________________________________________ Free-sklyarov-uk mailing list Free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org http://mailman.xenoclast.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov-uk From a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:32:31 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:32:31 +0100 From: Anton Chterenlikht a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests I completely agree with Dan. anton Dan Ackroyd wrote: > I'm not sure that broadening the issues too far would be the best way to go, > even though it might make more people come along to any demonstrations. > > The issue as it stands at the moment is very simple to explain: a Russian > programmer has been arrested and charged for actions he took in Russia, and > which he talked about in the U.S. > > Including talking about the anti-WTO would include many other issues which > are more difficult to explain, and would not necessarily garner support from > everyone (I, myself, am pro-trade but understand some of the things that > people don't like about the WTO, but wouldn't personally go on a > demonstration against it.) > > I suggest contacting other groups to see if they wish to support the 'Free > Dmitry' campaign, but I think any protests we undertake should have a simple > a message as possible. > > It might also get this campaign 'lumped' together with the other protests, > at least in the eyes of the media, who always seems to like pigeonholeing > people. > > Having said all that though, it probably would be a good idea to include > anti-DMCA people or any anti-"European Union Copyright Directive" people,( > sorry can't lookup the links right now, I have deadline in 3 hours)... > > Just my 2p. > > cheers > Dan From a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:33:50 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:33:50 +0100 From: Anton Chterenlikht a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests > I take it that this Saturday (4 August) is the optimum date. To allow > time for travel we should aim to kick-off between around 1200. > > How many of you are able to make it? Would it be a good idea to have a > sign/banner making party at some suitable venue earlier in the morning (or > the night before, if people think that appropriate)? > > Is there anyone on the list who has held similar protests in the UK > before? (I've not done it myself, and am wondering whether we need > to do anything such as arrange permits or notify the police, etc?) I think itvsounds very reasonable. Since the embassy will be closed maybe we can choose another place or maybe we can go from somewhere distributing flyers and finish near the embassy. I'm not that familiar with the place where the embassy is situated anton From jtjm at xenoclast.org Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:19:17 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:19:17 +0100 (BST) From: Julian T. J. Midgley jtjm at xenoclast.org Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Please help free Dmitry Sklyarov (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:10:08 -0400 From: Richard Kay To: ceo at xs4all.nl, mail at corporatewatch.org Cc: free-sklyarov at xenoclast.org Subject: Please help free Dmitry Sklyarov As UK/Europe based corporate observers I am asking for your urgent assistance to help us organise part of a global protest against a misuse of multinational corporate power. This has resulted in the wrongful arrest and imprisonment of a Russian programmer, Dmitry Sklyarov while he was attending a software conference in the US. The misuse of corporate power in question has resulted in unfair US copyright legislation (The Digital Millenium Copyright Act) in line with WTO objectives, which attempts to deny long-standing freedoms of expression and withdraw legally accepted fair-use principles associated with copyrighted materials in the United States. If this extension of corporate control over the democratic process is allowed to go unchallenged, equivalent rights will subsequently be denied within the UK and Europe. The case against Dmitry is totally unacceptable. Part of this relates to Dmitry's work in technically interfacing a DMCA-protected product marketed by Adobe, called the "Ebook". Dmitry's Russian employer, Elcomsoft had supplied an interfacing product to provide fair-use rights to purchasers of the Ebook product, e.g. allowing access by blind people. This work was carried out in Russia where the DMCA does not apply. This part of the charge against Dmitry is logically equivalent to a US citizen being arrested while on a business trip to Saudi Arabia for the "offence" of selling alcohol in New York. The second and only other charge against Dmitry relates to his presentation of a security paper at an academic conference. This exposed the trivial claimed "security" associated with the Ebook product, which involves a form of "encryption" which could easily have been circumvented by a 10 year old. This is morally equivalent to locking up a consumer product reviewer for providing comparative reviews of defective domestic door locks, to prevent potential customers of these locks from obtaining independent advice about which product to buy. I am sure you will agree with us that the actions of the FBI and US prosecution authorities in locking up Dmitry while he stands trial on these trumped-up charges should not be tolerated by the anti-corporate movement within the UK and Europe. With this in mind we are planning a demonstration in London on Saturday Aug 4th. We need to organise this very quickly, but we lack experience and numbers. If you have or are aware of support networks and mailing lists to which this message could usefully be forwarded please do this urgently. The website for organising UK-based activities associated with the Free-Sklyarov campaign is at: http://www.xenoclast.org/freesklyarov/ . Very many thanks in advance for your help. Best regards, Richard Kay rich at copsewood.net http://copsewood.net/ From jtjm at xenoclast.org Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:05:29 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:05:29 +0100 (BST) From: Julian T. J. Midgley jtjm at xenoclast.org Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Anton Chterenlikht wrote: > Since the embassy will be closed maybe we can choose another place or > maybe we can go from somewhere distributing flyers and finish near the > embassy. I'm not that familiar with the place where the embassy is > situated This begs an important question - is it really worthwhile to protest outside an empty Embassy? Would it be better to try to arrange the protest for Friday for it to have a more useful effect? It would be useful to know how many people could make Friday. Similarly, if anyone can think of a useful place to hold the protest on Saturday as an alternative to the Embassy, we should probably consider it. Julian -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F From christopher.robbins at multexinvestor.co.uk Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:08:24 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:08:24 -0400 From: Robbins, Christopher christopher.robbins at multexinvestor.co.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests The embassy is right by Hyde park. So, even if Embasssy is a bust, Hyde park should be full of happy tourists just dying to sit in the park and learn a bit about wacky americans and imprisoned russians. -c -----Original Message----- From: Julian T. J. Midgley [mailto:jtjm at xenoclast.org] Sent: 30 July 2001 17:05 To: Anton Chterenlikht Cc: free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org Subject: Re: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Anton Chterenlikht wrote: > Since the embassy will be closed maybe we can choose another place or > maybe we can go from somewhere distributing flyers and finish near the > embassy. I'm not that familiar with the place where the embassy is > situated This begs an important question - is it really worthwhile to protest outside an empty Embassy? Would it be better to try to arrange the protest for Friday for it to have a more useful effect? It would be useful to know how many people could make Friday. Similarly, if anyone can think of a useful place to hold the protest on Saturday as an alternative to the Embassy, we should probably consider it. Julian -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F _______________________________________________ Free-sklyarov-uk mailing list Free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org http://mailman.xenoclast.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov-uk From a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:12:35 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:12:35 +0100 From: Anton Chterenlikht a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests I agree, although I can make it on Friday if there will be more participants. anton "Robbins, Christopher" wrote: > The embassy is right by Hyde park. > > So, even if Embasssy is a bust, Hyde park should be full of happy tourists > just dying to sit in the park and learn a bit about wacky americans and > imprisoned russians. > > -c > > -----Original Message----- > From: Julian T. J. Midgley [mailto:jtjm at xenoclast.org] > Sent: 30 July 2001 17:05 > To: Anton Chterenlikht > Cc: free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org > Subject: Re: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests > > On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Anton Chterenlikht wrote: > > > Since the embassy will be closed maybe we can choose another place or > > maybe we can go from somewhere distributing flyers and finish near the > > embassy. I'm not that familiar with the place where the embassy is > > situated > > This begs an important question - is it really worthwhile to protest > outside an empty Embassy? Would it be better to try to arrange the > protest for Friday for it to have a more useful effect? > > It would be useful to know how many people could make Friday. Similarly, > if anyone can think of a useful place to hold the protest on Saturday as > an alternative to the Embassy, we should probably consider it. > > Julian > > -- > Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org > Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F > > _______________________________________________ > Free-sklyarov-uk mailing list > Free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org > http://mailman.xenoclast.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov-uk > > _______________________________________________ > Free-sklyarov-uk mailing list > Free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org > http://mailman.xenoclast.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov-uk From DAckroyd at igl.co.uk Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:25:58 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:25:58 +0100 From: Dan Ackroyd DAckroyd at igl.co.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests Here is a link to a map showing how the exact location of the embassy: http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?scale=5000&X=528250&Y=180750&gride=52 8297&gridn=180686&width=700&height=400&client=europe&db=&overviewmap=&coords ys=gb&out.x=14&out.y=19 The embassy is in Grovesnor Square just above the red circle, where USA is marked. The Canadian embassy is on the other side of the square. Julian wrote: >Would it be better to try to arrange the protest for Friday for it to have a more >useful effect? Definitely and it shows more commitment as people will have to take time off work to attend. It might be good to push the start time back to 1.00pm from 12.00 as people based in London would then be able to attend by just taking an afternoon off, not a whole day. (sorry if that sounds lame, making it more convinient, but it would good to get as many people as possible.) dan -----Original Message----- From: Robbins, Christopher [mailto:christopher.robbins at multexinvestor.co.uk] Sent: 30 July 2001 17:08 Cc: free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org Subject: RE: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests The embassy is right by Hyde park. So, even if Embasssy is a bust, Hyde park should be full of happy tourists just dying to sit in the park and learn a bit about wacky americans and imprisoned russians. -c -----Original Message----- From: Julian T. J. Midgley [mailto:jtjm at xenoclast.org] Sent: 30 July 2001 17:05 To: Anton Chterenlikht Cc: free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org Subject: Re: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Anton Chterenlikht wrote: > Since the embassy will be closed maybe we can choose another place or > maybe we can go from somewhere distributing flyers and finish near the > embassy. I'm not that familiar with the place where the embassy is > situated This begs an important question - is it really worthwhile to protest outside an empty Embassy? Would it be better to try to arrange the protest for Friday for it to have a more useful effect? It would be useful to know how many people could make Friday. Similarly, if anyone can think of a useful place to hold the protest on Saturday as an alternative to the Embassy, we should probably consider it. Julian -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F _______________________________________________ Free-sklyarov-uk mailing list Free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org http://mailman.xenoclast.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov-uk _______________________________________________ Free-sklyarov-uk mailing list Free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org http://mailman.xenoclast.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov-uk From free-sklyarov at effector.xenoclast.org Mon, 30 Jul 2001 19:06:21 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 19:06:21 +0100 (BST) From: Julian T. J. Midgley free-sklyarov at effector.xenoclast.org Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Dan Ackroyd wrote: > > > Here is a link to a map showing how the exact location of the embassy: > http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?scale=5000&X=528250&Y=180750&gride=52 > 8297&gridn=180686&width=700&height=400&client=europe&db=&overviewmap=&coords > ys=gb&out.x=14&out.y=19 > > The embassy is in Grovesnor Square just above the red circle, where USA is > marked. The Canadian embassy is on the other side of the square. > > Julian wrote: > >Would it be better to try to arrange the protest for Friday for it to have > a more > >useful effect? > > Definitely and it shows more commitment as people will have to take time off > work to attend. It might be good to push the start time back to 1.00pm from > 12.00 as people based in London would then be able to attend by just taking > an afternoon off, not a whole day. (sorry if that sounds lame, making it > more convinient, but it would good to get as many people as possible.) Ok then, I think we should try for Friday if possible, and if we can't get enough people, hold the protest on Saturday instead. I'd like to make the decision about this before midday tomorrow, so that people have plenty of notice. Could I have replies to this list saying whether you can make Friday at 1pm, or Saturday at 12, and how many other people you will be able to bring with you in either case. Personally, I can make either Friday or Saturday, and will be bringing at least one other, if not more. Julian -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F From cananian at lesser-magoo.lcs.mit.edu Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:27:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:27:14 -0400 (EDT) From: C. Scott Ananian cananian at lesser-magoo.lcs.mit.edu Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Richard Kay wrote: > I think the best way to get the possibility of decent numbers on > this protest by Saturday is to broaden the issue so that those involved > in anti WTO activities generally are willing to adopt > Free-Sklyarov and anti-DMCA as a cause directly connected with theirs, > rather than this being an issue understood only by a very narrow and > specialised group of hacktivists. I think some research into UK based > anti-WTO lists and education there about the WTO extension of > corporate intellectual property rights might enable a fairly quick > escalation of support. [I'm out-of-country, just monitoring this list for freesklyarov.org, but couldn't resist...] There *is* a link here. The U.S. DMCA was passed *explicitly* to implement provisions of the WIPO treaty; the WTO and WIPO have a "cooperative agreement". Many other countries are going to be "encouraged" to implement similar laws "to comply with the WIPO" --- in all likelihood they will not realize the pernicious effects of the proposed anti-circumvention language until after it is passed. I can rant more on the WTO-DMCA link, if anyone's curious. --s Ft. Meade Boston Suharto class struggle Morwenstow algorithm Echelon Israel insurgent [Hello to all my fans in domestic surveillance] biowarfare ( http://lesser-magoo.lcs.mit.edu/~cananian ) -- "These students are going to have to find out what law and order is all about." -- Brig. General Robert Canterbury, Noon, May 4, 1970, minutes before his troops shot 13 unarmed Kent State students, killing 4. -- [http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/DeCSS/Gallery/] #!/usr/bin/perl -w # 526-byte qrpff, Keith Winstein and Marc Horowitz # MPEG 2 PS VOB file on stdin -> descrambled output on stdout # arguments: title key bytes in least to most-significant order $_='while(read+STDIN,$_,2048){$a=29;$c=142;if(( at a=unx"C*",$_)[20]&48){$h=5; $_=unxb24,join"", at b=map{xB8,unxb8,chr($_^$a[--$h+84])} at ARGV;s/...$/1$&/;$d= unxV,xb25,$_;$b=73;$e=256|(ord$b[4])<<9|ord$b[3];$d=$d>>8^($f=($t=255)&($d >>12^$d>>4^$d^$d/8))<<17,$e=$e>>8^($t&($g=($q=$e>>14&7^$e)^$q*8^$q<<6))<<9 ,$_=(map{$_%16or$t^=$c^=($m=(11,10,116,100,11,122,20,100)[$_/16%8])&110;$t ^=(72, at z=(64,72,$a^=12*($_%16-2?0:$m&17)),$b^=$_%64?12:0, at z)[$_%8]}(16..271)) [$_]^(($h>>=8)+=$f+(~$g&$t))for at a[128..$#a]}print+x"C*", at a}';s/x/pack+/g;eval From cananian at lesser-magoo.lcs.mit.edu Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:40:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:40:57 -0400 (EDT) From: C. Scott Ananian cananian at lesser-magoo.lcs.mit.edu Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Dan Ackroyd wrote: > It might also get this campaign 'lumped' together with the other > protests, at least in the eyes of the media, who always seems to like > pigeonholeing people. This is very true. In Boston, we've taken great care to distance ourselves from the "Napster" case and all copyright-*infringment* issues for exactly this reason. It's not that we're anti-Napster; indeed there are several virulently anti-copyright-in-all-forms people who show up each well; it's just that we all understand that this is not the most effective way to influence public opinion at this time. One step at a time: first free Dmitry, then repeal the DMCA, *then* those inclined can mount a more broad-based attack on copyright (as I said, for those that have these beliefs). *However* we did get a *lot* of Green party cross-over at our first event. As long as you tell the anti-globalization folks to "keep it on message", they can be a valuable ally. --s Suharto $400 million in gold bullion OVER THE HORIZON RADAR Waco, Texas spy planning DNC Semtex COBRA JANE North Korea Kennedy Blair Diplomat ( http://lesser-magoo.lcs.mit.edu/~cananian ) -- "These students are going to have to find out what law and order is all about." -- Brig. General Robert Canterbury, Noon, May 4, 1970, minutes before his troops shot 13 unarmed Kent State students, killing 4. -- [http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/DeCSS/Gallery/] #!/usr/bin/perl -w # 526-byte qrpff, Keith Winstein and Marc Horowitz # MPEG 2 PS VOB file on stdin -> descrambled output on stdout # arguments: title key bytes in least to most-significant order $_='while(read+STDIN,$_,2048){$a=29;$c=142;if(( at a=unx"C*",$_)[20]&48){$h=5; $_=unxb24,join"", at b=map{xB8,unxb8,chr($_^$a[--$h+84])} at ARGV;s/...$/1$&/;$d= unxV,xb25,$_;$b=73;$e=256|(ord$b[4])<<9|ord$b[3];$d=$d>>8^($f=($t=255)&($d >>12^$d>>4^$d^$d/8))<<17,$e=$e>>8^($t&($g=($q=$e>>14&7^$e)^$q*8^$q<<6))<<9 ,$_=(map{$_%16or$t^=$c^=($m=(11,10,116,100,11,122,20,100)[$_/16%8])&110;$t ^=(72, at z=(64,72,$a^=12*($_%16-2?0:$m&17)),$b^=$_%64?12:0, at z)[$_%8]}(16..271)) [$_]^(($h>>=8)+=$f+(~$g&$t))for at a[128..$#a]}print+x"C*", at a}';s/x/pack+/g;eval From a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Mon, 30 Jul 2001 23:07:57 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 23:07:57 +0100 From: Anton Chterenlikht a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests I can do any day, because of the free day schedule Friday is not a problem for me at all. Probably I'll be alone but maybe take another person. I can print flyers, the only problem is the text. It is better for a native speaker to do this. I'll bring some plackards as well. Probably made on cloth (I'll go by coach and the paper ones I'll have to roll, they will be very difficult to keep after). What about printing also a small petition letter for the ambassador and ask people on the street to sign? anton > Ok then, > > I think we should try for Friday if possible, and if we can't get enough > people, hold the protest on Saturday instead. I'd like to make the > decision about this before midday tomorrow, so that people have plenty of > notice. > > Could I have replies to this list saying whether you can make Friday at > 1pm, or Saturday at 12, and how many other people you will be able to > bring with you in either case. > > Personally, I can make either Friday or Saturday, and will be bringing at > least one other, if not more. > > Julian From free-sklyarov at effector.xenoclast.org Tue, 31 Jul 2001 10:29:37 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 10:29:37 +0100 (BST) From: Julian T. J. Midgley free-sklyarov at effector.xenoclast.org Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Anton Chterenlikht wrote: > I can do any day, because of the free day schedule Friday is not a problem for me > at all. > Probably I'll be alone but maybe take another person. > > I can print flyers, the only problem is the text. It is better for a native > speaker to do > this. I'll bring some plackards as well. Probably made on cloth (I'll go by coach > and the > paper ones I'll have to roll, they will be very difficult to keep after). > > What about printing also a small petition letter for the ambassador and ask people > on the street to sign? That's a good idea. Right, so then, so far there are two of us able to make it on either Friday or Saturday (+ two or three others that we may be able to bring along with us). Conservatively, that's 4 people, which does not much of a protest make ;-) (It might be 5 if Dan can make it as well, which isn't clear, yet.) Are there any others willing to come along? I'm going to attempt to drum up some more support. Julian -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F From DAckroyd at igl.co.uk Tue, 31 Jul 2001 10:45:05 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 10:45:05 +0100 From: Dan Ackroyd DAckroyd at igl.co.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests Yes I will be there, for either Friday or Saturday. As for drumming up more support I guess we ought to tell as many people as possible that the protest is going ahead on Friday. The Register mentioned Dmitry the other day in a story they ran: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/20716.html so perhaps they would be interested telling everyone what we've got planned. Julian I suggest you contact them first as they are read by many UK based IT people who might care to join us. Also we need to add our event to the calender of events on freeSklyarov.org. Does anyone have any objections if I do that in an hour or two ? >Conservatively, that's 4 people, which does not much of a protest make ;-) Hey its a start, and its five people almost 6000 miles away from where the arrest took place which makes it more significant. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Julian T. J. Midgley [mailto:free-sklyarov at effector.xenoclast.org] Sent: 31 July 2001 10:30 To: Anton Chterenlikht Cc: free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org Subject: Re: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Anton Chterenlikht wrote: > I can do any day, because of the free day schedule Friday is not a problem for me > at all. > Probably I'll be alone but maybe take another person. > > I can print flyers, the only problem is the text. It is better for a native > speaker to do > this. I'll bring some plackards as well. Probably made on cloth (I'll go by coach > and the > paper ones I'll have to roll, they will be very difficult to keep after). > > What about printing also a small petition letter for the ambassador and ask people > on the street to sign? That's a good idea. Right, so then, so far there are two of us able to make it on either Friday or Saturday (+ two or three others that we may be able to bring along with us). Conservatively, that's 4 people, which does not much of a protest make ;-) (It might be 5 if Dan can make it as well, which isn't clear, yet.) Are there any others willing to come along? I'm going to attempt to drum up some more support. Julian -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F _______________________________________________ Free-sklyarov-uk mailing list Free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org http://mailman.xenoclast.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov-uk From a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Tue, 31 Jul 2001 10:54:54 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 10:54:54 +0100 From: Anton Chterenlikht a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Wendy McAuliffe from ZDNet Dear all, Wendy McAuliffe from ZDNet [UK] just called me and said that she is going to write a paper about our protest. She needs some information as soon as possible (date, time, what do we want). Can someone (Dan, Julian) get in touch with her and give her more information at 0207 9036064. I've tryed to explain some things but.. my english is not that good. So, shall we agree on friday? Also we have to inform Will Knight (New Scientist) and Stuart Millar (Guardian). They are very keen to write about this as well. anton "Julian T. J. Midgley" wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Anton Chterenlikht wrote: > > > I can do any day, because of the free day schedule Friday is not a problem for me > > at all. > > Probably I'll be alone but maybe take another person. > > > > I can print flyers, the only problem is the text. It is better for a native > > speaker to do > > this. I'll bring some plackards as well. Probably made on cloth (I'll go by coach > > and the > > paper ones I'll have to roll, they will be very difficult to keep after). > > > > What about printing also a small petition letter for the ambassador and ask people > > on the street to sign? > > That's a good idea. > > Right, so then, so far there are two of us able to make it on either > Friday or Saturday (+ two or three others that we may be able to bring > along with us). Conservatively, that's 4 people, which does not much of a > protest make ;-) (It might be 5 if Dan can make it as well, which isn't > clear, yet.) > > Are there any others willing to come along? > > I'm going to attempt to drum up some more support. > > Julian > > -- > Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org > Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F > > _______________________________________________ > Free-sklyarov-uk mailing list > Free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org > http://mailman.xenoclast.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov-uk From DAckroyd at igl.co.uk Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:06:37 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:06:37 +0100 From: Dan Ackroyd DAckroyd at igl.co.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests - Flyers and pickets >I can print flyers, the only problem is the text. It is better for a native >speaker to do this. I'll bring some plackards as well. We should be able to use the examples of flyers on http://freesklyarov.org/ as a basis for our flyers with only a small amount of editting. Heres a useful link on how to make picket signs: http://csua.berkeley.edu/%7Ealexf/sklyarov/Picket-Signs-mini-HOWTO I live just down the Picadilly line 2 mins from Barons Court, which is on the same line as Hyde Park Corner which is one of the tube stations near the embassy. If necessary we could assemble any pickets there before moving onto the embassy. dan -----Original Message----- From: Anton Chterenlikht [mailto:a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk] Sent: 30 July 2001 23:08 To: free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests I can do any day, because of the free day schedule Friday is not a problem for me at all. Probably I'll be alone but maybe take another person. I can print flyers, the only problem is the text. It is better for a native speaker to do this. I'll bring some plackards as well. Probably made on cloth (I'll go by coach and the paper ones I'll have to roll, they will be very difficult to keep after). What about printing also a small petition letter for the ambassador and ask people on the street to sign? anton > Ok then, > > I think we should try for Friday if possible, and if we can't get enough > people, hold the protest on Saturday instead. I'd like to make the > decision about this before midday tomorrow, so that people have plenty of > notice. > > Could I have replies to this list saying whether you can make Friday at > 1pm, or Saturday at 12, and how many other people you will be able to > bring with you in either case. > > Personally, I can make either Friday or Saturday, and will be bringing at > least one other, if not more. > > Julian _______________________________________________ Free-sklyarov-uk mailing list Free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org http://mailman.xenoclast.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov-uk From free-sklyarov at effector.xenoclast.org Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:16:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:16:01 +0100 (BST) From: Julian T. J. Midgley free-sklyarov at effector.xenoclast.org Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Dan Ackroyd wrote: > Yes I will be there, for either Friday or Saturday. > > As for drumming up more support I guess we ought to tell as many people as > possible that the protest is going ahead on Friday. > > The Register mentioned Dmitry the other day in a story they ran: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/20716.html Ok, we'll go ahead with Friday (kicking off at 1pm). I'm going to announce the protests to the Register this afternoon. I will also speak to Wendy McAuliffe (sp?) from ZDnet. > so perhaps they would be interested telling everyone what we've got planned. > Julian I suggest you contact them first as they are read by many UK based IT > people who might care to join us. > > Also we need to add our event to the calender of events on freeSklyarov.org. > Does anyone have any objections if I do that in an hour or two ? No problem at all, go ahead. > >Conservatively, that's 4 people, which does not much of a protest make ;-) > Hey its a start, and its five people almost 6000 miles away from where the > arrest took place which makes it more significant. This is true, and I've feeling if we get a bit of press coverage from the Register and others before the event we will be able to make that into a much more respectable 20 or so without much difficulty. All the best, Julian -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F From a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:36:16 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:36:16 +0100 From: Anton Chterenlikht a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests > Ok, we'll go ahead with Friday (kicking off at 1pm). I'm going to > announce the protests to the Register this afternoon. Shall we be at 1pm at the embassy? Or we'll get there a bit later? I'll make two half-bedsheet-sized banners, probably with 2 sticks each. So this gives 4 places for slogans. 1 - Free Dmitry, 2,3,4 - ? any other ideas? Flyers: This one: http://www.tabinda.com/freedmitry/free_dmitry_flyer_20010729.doc is good but I think it needs some changes. Isn't it better to quote UK people instead? Say academics like Alan Cox, Ross Anderson, Richard Kay, maybe someone else. I think it will make it will more effect on British people. Also, shall we write something on European Union Copyright Directive? anton From jtjm at xenoclast.org Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:52:35 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:52:35 +0100 (BST) From: Julian T. J. Midgley jtjm at xenoclast.org Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Press Release: UK Free Dmitry Sklyarov Protest Below is the text of the press release I intend to send to the Register and other news agencies this afternoon. If you have any criticism or comments, please let me know within the next half hour, and I'll revise it before sending it out at around 1230 today. Many thanks, Julian For Immediate Release: There will be a protest held outside the US Embassy in London, on Friday 4 August, calling for the immediate release of Dmitry Sklyarov, a Russian programmer who was arrested by the FBI for creating software which circumvented the copyright protection mechanism in Adobe's eBook Reader. Adobe has since issued a joint statement with the Electronic Frontier Foundation calling for Mr Sklyarov's release, but the US Department of Justice still has Mr Sklyarov in custody, and appears to intend to proceed with the trial. The UK protestors strongly believe that Mr Sklyarov's arrest was unlawful and unnecessary. He is charged with trafficking in a copyright circumvention mechanism, despite the fact that the software he wrote was sold by the company he worked for (through a US reseller) and not by him himself. Furthermore, the law he is alleged to have broken, the DMCA (Digital Millenium Copyright Act) makes illegal in the US activities considered entirely lawful in most other nations, including Britain and Mr Sklyarov's native Russia. The DMCA destroys the right to fair use, and makes those who point out flaws in the security algorithms and protocols of other companies liable to prosecution. It is clear that the DMCA needs revision (in a separate case, a Professor Felten is suing to have parts of it declared unconstitutional), and it is quite unreasonable to leave Dmitry Sklyarov languishing in a US prison whilst the Americans resolve the problems with this ill-thought law. Dmitry Sklyarov should not be a test case, he should be a free man! Those interested in joining the protest on Friday will find more details on the web at: http://uk.freesklyarov.org/ and are encouraged to join the UK Free Sklyarov mailing list at: http://mailman.xenoclast.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov-uk -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F From free-sklyarov at effector.xenoclast.org Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:53:42 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:53:42 +0100 (BST) From: Julian T. J. Midgley free-sklyarov at effector.xenoclast.org Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Anton Chterenlikht wrote: > > Ok, we'll go ahead with Friday (kicking off at 1pm). I'm going to > > announce the protests to the Register this afternoon. > > Shall we be at 1pm at the embassy? Or we'll get there a bit later? 1pm at the embassy. Later today we'll arrange plans to meet beforehand. It sounds as though Dan Ackroyd might have a useful base camp ;-) All the best, Julian -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F From a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:59:35 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:59:35 +0100 From: Anton Chterenlikht a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Press Release: UK Free Dmitry Sklyarov Protest Friday 3!!! August (NOT 4)!!! anton "Julian T. J. Midgley" wrote: > Below is the text of the press release I intend to send to the Register > and other news agencies this afternoon. > > If you have any criticism or comments, please let me know within the next > half hour, and I'll revise it before sending it out at around 1230 today. > > Many thanks, > > Julian > > For Immediate Release: > > There will be a protest held outside the US Embassy in London, on Friday 4 > August, calling for the immediate release of Dmitry Sklyarov, a Russian > programmer who was arrested by the FBI for creating software which > circumvented the copyright protection mechanism in Adobe's eBook Reader. > > Adobe has since issued a joint statement with the Electronic Frontier > Foundation calling for Mr Sklyarov's release, but the US Department of > Justice still has Mr Sklyarov in custody, and appears to intend to proceed > with the trial. > > The UK protestors strongly believe that Mr Sklyarov's arrest was unlawful > and unnecessary. He is charged with trafficking in a copyright > circumvention mechanism, despite the fact that the software he wrote was > sold by the company he worked for (through a US reseller) and not by him > himself. Furthermore, the law he is alleged to have broken, the DMCA > (Digital Millenium Copyright Act) makes illegal in the US activities > considered entirely lawful in most other nations, including Britain and Mr > Sklyarov's native Russia. > > The DMCA destroys the right to fair use, and makes those who point out > flaws in the security algorithms and protocols of other companies liable > to prosecution. It is clear that the DMCA needs revision (in a separate > case, a Professor Felten is suing to have parts of it declared > unconstitutional), and it is quite unreasonable to leave Dmitry Sklyarov > languishing in a US prison whilst the Americans resolve the problems with > this ill-thought law. Dmitry Sklyarov should not be a test case, he > should be a free man! > > Those interested in joining the protest on Friday will find more details > on the web at: > > http://uk.freesklyarov.org/ > > and are encouraged to join the UK Free Sklyarov mailing list at: > > http://mailman.xenoclast.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov-uk > > -- > Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org > Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F > > _______________________________________________ > Free-sklyarov-uk mailing list > Free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org > http://mailman.xenoclast.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov-uk From DAckroyd at igl.co.uk Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:58:21 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:58:21 +0100 From: Dan Ackroyd DAckroyd at igl.co.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Press Release: UK Free Dmitry Sklyarov Pro test >"despite the fact that the software he wrote was sold by the company he worked for" You could remove 'he wrote' as it is not clear exactly how much he wrote himself as he was part of a team of programmers, whereas 'he wrote' sounds like he wrote it all. Typo: and not by 'him himself' Apart from those (and the date :) sounds good to me -----Original Message----- From: Julian T. J. Midgley [mailto:jtjm at xenoclast.org] Sent: 31 July 2001 11:53 To: free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Press Release: UK Free Dmitry Sklyarov Protest Below is the text of the press release I intend to send to the Register and other news agencies this afternoon. If you have any criticism or comments, please let me know within the next half hour, and I'll revise it before sending it out at around 1230 today. Many thanks, Julian For Immediate Release: There will be a protest held outside the US Embassy in London, on Friday 4 August, calling for the immediate release of Dmitry Sklyarov, a Russian programmer who was arrested by the FBI for creating software which circumvented the copyright protection mechanism in Adobe's eBook Reader. Adobe has since issued a joint statement with the Electronic Frontier Foundation calling for Mr Sklyarov's release, but the US Department of Justice still has Mr Sklyarov in custody, and appears to intend to proceed with the trial. The UK protestors strongly believe that Mr Sklyarov's arrest was unlawful and unnecessary. He is charged with trafficking in a copyright circumvention mechanism, despite the fact that the software he wrote was sold by the company he worked for (through a US reseller) and not by him himself. Furthermore, the law he is alleged to have broken, the DMCA (Digital Millenium Copyright Act) makes illegal in the US activities considered entirely lawful in most other nations, including Britain and Mr Sklyarov's native Russia. The DMCA destroys the right to fair use, and makes those who point out flaws in the security algorithms and protocols of other companies liable to prosecution. It is clear that the DMCA needs revision (in a separate case, a Professor Felten is suing to have parts of it declared unconstitutional), and it is quite unreasonable to leave Dmitry Sklyarov languishing in a US prison whilst the Americans resolve the problems with this ill-thought law. Dmitry Sklyarov should not be a test case, he should be a free man! Those interested in joining the protest on Friday will find more details on the web at: http://uk.freesklyarov.org/ and are encouraged to join the UK Free Sklyarov mailing list at: http://mailman.xenoclast.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov-uk -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F _______________________________________________ Free-sklyarov-uk mailing list Free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org http://mailman.xenoclast.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov-uk From jtjm at xenoclast.org Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:11:57 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:11:57 +0100 (BST) From: Julian T J Midgley jtjm at xenoclast.org Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Press Release: UK Free Dmitry Sklyarov Pro test On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Dan Ackroyd wrote: > > >"despite the fact that the software he wrote was sold by the company he > worked for" > > You could remove 'he wrote' as it is not clear exactly how much he wrote > himself as he was part of a team of programmers, whereas 'he wrote' sounds > like he wrote it all. > > Typo: and not by 'him himself' > > Apart from those (and the date :) sounds good to me Have amended that sentence to read: He is charged with trafficking in a copyright circumvention mechanism, despite the fact that the software, which he helped to write, was sold by the company he worked for (through a US reseller) and not by him directly. All the best, Julian -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F From jtjm at xenoclast.org Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:13:45 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:13:45 +0100 (BST) From: Julian T. J. Midgley jtjm at xenoclast.org Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] ZDNet Coverage, Keep your eyes on the ZDnet UK pages - I've spoken to Wendy McAuliffe, and there should be an article going out about the protests sometime this afternoon. Julian -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F From jtjm at xenoclast.org Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:54:49 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:54:49 +0100 (BST) From: Julian T. J. Midgley jtjm at xenoclast.org Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Press Release - for wider distribution Anton, here's the release as I sent it to the Register - do you want to send it on to Will Knight and Stuart Miller? If anyone else has contacts to whom we ought to send it, feel free to forward it to them. All the best, Julian For Immediate Release: There will be a protest held outside the US Embassy in London, on Friday 3 August, calling for the immediate release of Dmitry Sklyarov, a Russian programmer who was arrested by the FBI for creating software which circumvented the copyright protection mechanism in Adobe's eBook Reader. Adobe has since issued a joint statement with the Electronic Frontier Foundation calling for Mr Sklyarov's release, but the US Department of Justice still has Mr Sklyarov in custody, and appears to intend to proceed with the trial. The UK protestors strongly believe that Mr Sklyarov's arrest was unlawful and unnecessary. He is charged with trafficking in a copyright circumvention mechanism, despite the fact that the software, which he helped to write, was sold by the company he worked for (through a US reseller) and not by him directly. Furthermore, the law he is alleged to have broken, the DMCA (Digital Millenium Copyright Act) makes illegal in the US activities considered entirely lawful in most other nations, including Britain and Mr Sklyarov's native Russia. The DMCA destroys the right to fair use, and makes those who point out flaws in the security algorithms and protocols of other companies liable to prosecution. It is clear that the DMCA needs revision (in a separate case, a Professor Felten is suing to have parts of it declared unconstitutional), and it is quite unreasonable to leave Dmitry Sklyarov languishing in a US prison whilst the Americans resolve the problems with this ill-thought law. Dmitry Sklyarov should not be a test case, he should be a free man! Those interested in joining the protest on Friday will find more details on the web at: http://uk.freesklyarov.org/ and are encouraged to join the UK Free Sklyarov mailing list at: http://mailman.xenoclast.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov-uk -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F From DAckroyd at igl.co.uk Tue, 31 Jul 2001 13:03:31 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 13:03:31 +0100 From: Dan Ackroyd DAckroyd at igl.co.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Meeting for protest >From the freeSklyarov.org website: "Also, bear in mind, when planning, Don Marti's admonition that it's it's a good to assemble protests a block or two from your intended target, and then march there en masse. Much more effective psychologically." Should we meet at 12:30pm at Hyde Park Corner tube station, to walk together to the US embassy ? "Contact Information. This should be the name of the person who's the principal point of contact for the event. The named individual should be willing to take phone calls from the press. If you're sending more than one name, please include some description of each person's role." I don't mind being the person giving directions for the protest, but Julian do you want to field the press calls ( as you're now so experienced? ) cheers dan From free-sklyarov at effector.xenoclast.org Tue, 31 Jul 2001 13:26:15 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 13:26:15 +0100 (BST) From: Julian T. J. Midgley free-sklyarov at effector.xenoclast.org Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Meeting for protest On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Dan Ackroyd wrote: > > >From the freeSklyarov.org website: > > "Also, bear in mind, when planning, Don Marti's admonition that it's it's a > good to assemble protests a block or two from your intended target, and then > march there en masse. Much more effective psychologically." > > Should we meet at 12:30pm at Hyde Park Corner tube station, to walk together > to the US embassy ? Sounds like a good idea to me. > "Contact Information. This should be the name of the person who's the > principal point of contact for the event. The named individual should be > willing to take phone calls from the press. If you're sending more than one > name, please include some description of each person's role." > > I don't mind being the person giving directions for the protest, but Julian > do you want to field the press calls ( as you're now so experienced? ) Yes, no problem at all. I'll edit the website to indicate the two roles: Protest Lead: Dan Ackroyd Press Liaison: Julian Midgley All the best, Julian -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F From a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:06:14 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:06:14 +0100 From: Anton Chterenlikht a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Meeting for protest "Julian T. J. Midgley" wrote: > On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Dan Ackroyd wrote: > > > > > >From the freeSklyarov.org website: > > > > "Also, bear in mind, when planning, Don Marti's admonition that it's it's a > > good to assemble protests a block or two from your intended target, and then > > march there en masse. Much more effective psychologically." > > > > Should we meet at 12:30pm at Hyde Park Corner tube station, to walk together > > to the US embassy ? > > Sounds like a good idea to me. I agree anton From a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:08:11 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:08:11 +0100 From: Anton Chterenlikht a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Meeting for protest Should we inform the police? anton From free-sklyarov at effector.xenoclast.org Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:08:33 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:08:33 +0100 (BST) From: Julian T. J. Midgley free-sklyarov at effector.xenoclast.org Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] On The Register The announcement has made The Register: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/20738.html All the best, Julian -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F From free-sklyarov at effector.xenoclast.org Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:09:31 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:09:31 +0100 (BST) From: Julian T. J. Midgley free-sklyarov at effector.xenoclast.org Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Meeting for protest On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Anton Chterenlikht wrote: > Should we inform the police? We should probably let them know, and also ask them whether we require any form of permit. Dan, could you do this? Julian -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F From a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:14:31 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:14:31 +0100 From: Anton Chterenlikht a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Re: [Free-sklyarov-uk]on ZDNet [UK] "Julian T. J. Midgley" wrote: > The announcement has made The Register: > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/20738.html and ZDNet [UK]: http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2092269,00.html anton From DAckroyd at igl.co.uk Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:11:42 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:11:42 +0100 From: Dan Ackroyd DAckroyd at igl.co.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Meeting for protest Yep, I'll give them a phone call today. After all I do that sort of thing all the time. NOT! :) -----Original Message----- From: Julian T. J. Midgley [mailto:free-sklyarov at effector.xenoclast.org] Sent: 31 July 2001 14:10 To: Anton Chterenlikht Cc: free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org Subject: Re: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Meeting for protest On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Anton Chterenlikht wrote: > Should we inform the police? We should probably let them know, and also ask them whether we require any form of permit. Dan, could you do this? Julian -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F _______________________________________________ Free-sklyarov-uk mailing list Free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org http://mailman.xenoclast.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov-uk From DAckroyd at igl.co.uk Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:51:11 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:51:11 +0100 From: Dan Ackroyd DAckroyd at igl.co.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Police informed of protest Hi all, Just to let you know we have informed the police of our protest outside the embassy this friday, and they will be informing the US embassy and will be providing a couple of police people to make sure we don't make any trouble ;). They would like to know before hand, roughly how many people are coming, so if you are new to this list and are planning on attending, please send an email to this list so we can have a better idea of how many people are coming. cheers Dan From home at alexhudson.com Tue, 31 Jul 2001 16:15:12 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 16:15:12 +0100 From: home at alexhudson.com home at alexhudson.com Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Police informed of protest On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 03:51:11PM +0100, Dan Ackroyd wrote: > Just to let you know we have informed the police of our protest outside > the embassy this friday, and they will be informing the US embassy and > will be providing a couple of police people to make sure we don't make any > trouble I'm sure that sounds a whole lot more serious than it actually is :) > if you are new to this list and are planning on attending, please send an > email to this list so we can have a better idea of how many people are > coming. I'm going to do my damnedest to come along - I've been working a couple of Sundays, I have time in lieu :) (actually, not sure whether working sundays _is_ a :) ) Cheers, Alex. -- From cananian at lesser-magoo.lcs.mit.edu Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:24:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:24:14 -0400 (EDT) From: C. Scott Ananian cananian at lesser-magoo.lcs.mit.edu Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Press Release: UK Free Dmitry Sklyarov Protest On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Julian T. J. Midgley wrote: > Below is the text of the press release I intend to send to the Register > and other news agencies this afternoon. > > If you have any criticism or comments, please let me know within the next > half hour, and I'll revise it before sending it out at around 1230 today. I don't know if I'm in time, but it's usually best to give the date, time, and place of the protest clearly in the press release *without* forcing people to the web. Also, the press release (for media) should announce a time *later* than what you announce to others; you want time for everyone to assemble and form up before the media arrives. In Boston our press releases announce a protest at 12:30; everyone else hears noon. See http://boston.freesklyarov.org/releases/ if you're curious. --s Boston Kojarena Leitrim struggle Treasury supercomputer insurgent assassination Moscow hack terrorist Attache mail drop SDI ASW NORAD ( http://lesser-magoo.lcs.mit.edu/~cananian ) -- "These students are going to have to find out what law and order is all about." -- Brig. General Robert Canterbury, Noon, May 4, 1970, minutes before his troops shot 13 unarmed Kent State students, killing 4. -- [http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/DeCSS/Gallery/] #!/usr/bin/perl -w # 526-byte qrpff, Keith Winstein and Marc Horowitz # MPEG 2 PS VOB file on stdin -> descrambled output on stdout # arguments: title key bytes in least to most-significant order $_='while(read+STDIN,$_,2048){$a=29;$c=142;if(( at a=unx"C*",$_)[20]&48){$h=5; $_=unxb24,join"", at b=map{xB8,unxb8,chr($_^$a[--$h+84])} at ARGV;s/...$/1$&/;$d= unxV,xb25,$_;$b=73;$e=256|(ord$b[4])<<9|ord$b[3];$d=$d>>8^($f=($t=255)&($d >>12^$d>>4^$d^$d/8))<<17,$e=$e>>8^($t&($g=($q=$e>>14&7^$e)^$q*8^$q<<6))<<9 ,$_=(map{$_%16or$t^=$c^=($m=(11,10,116,100,11,122,20,100)[$_/16%8])&110;$t ^=(72, at z=(64,72,$a^=12*($_%16-2?0:$m&17)),$b^=$_%64?12:0, at z)[$_%8]}(16..271)) [$_]^(($h>>=8)+=$f+(~$g&$t))for at a[128..$#a]}print+x"C*", at a}';s/x/pack+/g;eval From cananian at lesser-magoo.lcs.mit.edu Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:26:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:26:10 -0400 (EDT) From: C. Scott Ananian cananian at lesser-magoo.lcs.mit.edu Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Press Release: UK Free Dmitry Sklyarov Protest maybe i should make it clearer that your draft press release *did not include the time* of the event. may be too late to fix now, sigh. --s FSF interception [Hello to all my fans in domestic surveillance] TASS CIA United Nations Milosevic Peking Indonesia WTO arrangements SSBN 743 ( http://lesser-magoo.lcs.mit.edu/~cananian ) -- "These students are going to have to find out what law and order is all about." -- Brig. General Robert Canterbury, Noon, May 4, 1970, minutes before his troops shot 13 unarmed Kent State students, killing 4. -- [http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/DeCSS/Gallery/] #!/usr/bin/perl -w # 526-byte qrpff, Keith Winstein and Marc Horowitz # MPEG 2 PS VOB file on stdin -> descrambled output on stdout # arguments: title key bytes in least to most-significant order $_='while(read+STDIN,$_,2048){$a=29;$c=142;if(( at a=unx"C*",$_)[20]&48){$h=5; $_=unxb24,join"", at b=map{xB8,unxb8,chr($_^$a[--$h+84])} at ARGV;s/...$/1$&/;$d= unxV,xb25,$_;$b=73;$e=256|(ord$b[4])<<9|ord$b[3];$d=$d>>8^($f=($t=255)&($d >>12^$d>>4^$d^$d/8))<<17,$e=$e>>8^($t&($g=($q=$e>>14&7^$e)^$q*8^$q<<6))<<9 ,$_=(map{$_%16or$t^=$c^=($m=(11,10,116,100,11,122,20,100)[$_/16%8])&110;$t ^=(72, at z=(64,72,$a^=12*($_%16-2?0:$m&17)),$b^=$_%64?12:0, at z)[$_%8]}(16..271)) [$_]^(($h>>=8)+=$f+(~$g&$t))for at a[128..$#a]}print+x"C*", at a}';s/x/pack+/g;eval From DAckroyd at igl.co.uk Tue, 31 Jul 2001 16:23:59 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 16:23:59 +0100 From: Dan Ackroyd DAckroyd at igl.co.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Police informed of protest - > providing a couple of police people to make sure we don't > make any trouble > ;). Alex wrote: >I'm sure that sounds a whole lot more serious than it actually is :) I'm sure the police aren't _too_ concerned about some programmers demonstrating outside the US embassy, after last weeks demonstration outside the Italian embassy. Also Kevin wrote: -----Original Message----- From: Kevin King [mailto:KKing at mentorn.co.uk] Sent: 31 July 2001 16:17 To: 'Dan Ackroyd' Subject: RE: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Police informed of protest - OFFLIST have a look at the picture...this was Saturday just gone.. The demo outside the italian embassy.. http://www.247id.net/demo/pics/03.jpg some how i don't think we'll need that many.. Kev King.. :-) From jtjm at xenoclast.org Tue, 31 Jul 2001 16:45:58 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 16:45:58 +0100 (BST) From: Julian T J Midgley jtjm at xenoclast.org Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Press Release: UK Free Dmitry Sklyarov Protest On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Julian T. J. Midgley wrote: > > > Below is the text of the press release I intend to send to the Register > > and other news agencies this afternoon. > > > > If you have any criticism or comments, please let me know within the next > > half hour, and I'll revise it before sending it out at around 1230 today. > > I don't know if I'm in time, but it's usually best to give the date, time, > and place of the protest clearly in the press release *without* forcing > people to the web. Also, the press release (for media) should announce a > time *later* than what you announce to others; you want time for everyone > to assemble and form up before the media arrives. In Boston our press > releases announce a protest at 12:30; everyone else hears noon. Yes, that makes perfect sense. I'll have to put that one down to lack of experience and make sure we get it right next time. I'll probably be putting out a second press release on Thursday. Fortunately, press coverage seems to have been quite good so far. ITN Radio will be doing an interview on Friday, I had MacWorld on the telephone earlier in the day, and at least one journalist has so far promised to turn up for the event itself. > See http://boston.freesklyarov.org/releases/ if you're curious. Yes, very useful, and has given me a few ideas for generating a more professional press-release next time round. Many thanks for the suggestions, Julian -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F From cananian at lesser-magoo.lcs.mit.edu Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:59:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:59:24 -0400 (EDT) From: C. Scott Ananian cananian at lesser-magoo.lcs.mit.edu Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Press Release: UK Free Dmitry Sklyarov Protest On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Julian T J Midgley wrote: > > See http://boston.freesklyarov.org/releases/ if you're curious. > > Yes, very useful, and has given me a few ideas for generating a more > professional press-release next time round. I've also found the press releases at eff.org and gnu.org to be very handy models; I think our press release was originally formatted after one I found at the GNU site. --s Khaddafi Seattle Hussein Iraq Blair Richard Tomlinson D5 SLBM algorithm Minister immediate CIA NSA Hawk supercomputer TASS plastique Nader ( http://lesser-magoo.lcs.mit.edu/~cananian ) -- "These students are going to have to find out what law and order is all about." -- Brig. General Robert Canterbury, Noon, May 4, 1970, minutes before his troops shot 13 unarmed Kent State students, killing 4. -- [http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/DeCSS/Gallery/] #!/usr/bin/perl -w # 526-byte qrpff, Keith Winstein and Marc Horowitz # MPEG 2 PS VOB file on stdin -> descrambled output on stdout # arguments: title key bytes in least to most-significant order $_='while(read+STDIN,$_,2048){$a=29;$c=142;if(( at a=unx"C*",$_)[20]&48){$h=5; $_=unxb24,join"", at b=map{xB8,unxb8,chr($_^$a[--$h+84])} at ARGV;s/...$/1$&/;$d= unxV,xb25,$_;$b=73;$e=256|(ord$b[4])<<9|ord$b[3];$d=$d>>8^($f=($t=255)&($d >>12^$d>>4^$d^$d/8))<<17,$e=$e>>8^($t&($g=($q=$e>>14&7^$e)^$q*8^$q<<6))<<9 ,$_=(map{$_%16or$t^=$c^=($m=(11,10,116,100,11,122,20,100)[$_/16%8])&110;$t ^=(72, at z=(64,72,$a^=12*($_%16-2?0:$m&17)),$b^=$_%64?12:0, at z)[$_%8]}(16..271)) [$_]^(($h>>=8)+=$f+(~$g&$t))for at a[128..$#a]}print+x"C*", at a}';s/x/pack+/g;eval From rich at copsewood.net Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:38:28 -0400 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:38:28 -0400 From: Richard Kay rich at copsewood.net Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Police informed of protest I will be coming along if at all possible and look forward to meeting you all. Richard Kay rich at copsewood.net On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 03:51:11PM +0100, Dan Ackroyd wrote: > > Hi all, > > Just to let you know we have informed the police of our protest outside the > embassy this friday, and they will be informing the US embassy and will be > providing a couple of police people to make sure we don't make any trouble > ;). > > They would like to know before hand, roughly how many people are coming, so > if you are new to this list and are planning on attending, please send an > email to this list so we can have a better idea of how many people are > coming. > > > cheers > Dan > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Free-sklyarov-uk mailing list > Free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org > http://mailman.xenoclast.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov-uk From a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:47:56 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:47:56 +0100 From: Anton Chterenlikht a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] another link http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4230077,00.html From a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:54:29 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:54:29 +0100 From: Anton Chterenlikht a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Re: DMCA and European Union Copyright Directive Hi Kristina, Thanks for your support. We are holding a protest at the US embassy on Friday 3 August. All information is at http://www.xenoclast.org/freesklyarov/ and http://www.xenoclast.org/free-sklyarov-uk/2001-July/thread.html Thanks again anton Kristina Pfaff-Harris wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Anton Chterenlikht wrote: > > > I've found your email by searching people on the net who deal with > > copyright or intellectual property issues. > > Hi! I'm afraid that my only real connection with copyright issues is an > article I once wrote for the Internet TESL Journal, but if you want my > opinion, I'll be glad to give it. > > > Could you please read the information related to this case (you can > > find this information for example at the links above) and send me or > > at free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org (this is the address of the UK Free > > Sklyarov mailing list) your opinion about this story. > > I'm aware of Dmitry's case -- I've been following it on Slashdot and other > places, and it's horrible. It's a perversion of the original intent of US > copyright laws. It's also amazing to me that one can be arrested in the > US for something legal that one did in their own country! This whole thing > is unbelievable to me. > > I have written to the Governor of Nevada, and Nevada's congressmen and > senators, asking them to support freeing Skylarov. This is a sad, sad > time. > > Kristina From a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:57:07 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:57:07 +0100 From: Anton Chterenlikht a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] flyer Dear all, I made some draft changes to this flyer: http://www.tabinda.com/freedmitry/free_dmitry_flyer_20010729.doc Basically I just removed the phrase about "our tax money", removed two quotations and added another three. But.. it does not fit on the page :) The quoted words can be found at: Ross Anderson - http://www.authorsrights.org/crefo/crefo5.html Alan Cox - http://lwn.net/daily/alan-quits-als.php3 Richard Kay - our site I'm not sure it is good. Maybe some quotations sound a bit too complicated for the London tourists. I can do flyers (probably print one and put on a xerox, the quality is a bit worse than printed but it very quick, when I was printing the first ones, a week ago, it took me 10 min for 500 copies), but I need to be sure that the text is ok. If you want me to do this, can you please provide me with the final copy of this flyer. Is it ok to send attachments to the list? anton Following is a flyer: -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------- On July 16 FBI agents arrested security researcher Dmitry Sklyarov. On July 23 Adobe Systems, which originally called for Dmitry's arrest, recommended he be released from federal custody. The Department of Justice has done nothing. The law under which Dmitry is charged, the notorious Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) is again proving harmful to civil liberties and software development. Dmitry, a Ph.D. candidate and father of two small children, wrote software for his employer, ElcomSoft. ElcomSoft's program makes it possible for legitimate users to make fair use of e-books, and could make it possible for visually impaired users to use them with Braille terminals and text-to-speech software. Dmitry is a Russian citizen whose actions are perfectly legal in his home country. He has committed no crime. This case is not about copyright infringement. Dmitry has not been charged with making any illegal copies. His work simply allows the legitimate purchaser of an e-book to translate it from one digital format into another. Dmitry was arrested after presenting his findings at a conference in Las Vegas. "The U.S. government for the first time is prosecuting a programmer for building a tool that may be used for many purposes, including those that legitimate purchasers need in order to exercise their fair use rights." -- Robin Gross, Electronic Frontier Foundation "With the arrest of Dmitry Sklyarov it has become apparent that it is not safe for non US software engineers to visit the United States. While he was undoubtedly chosen for political reasons, as a Russian is a good example for the US public the risk extends arbitrarily further. (=85) Until the DMCA mess is resolved I would urge all non US citizens to boycott conferences in the USA and all US conference bodies to hold their conferences elsewhere." -- Alan Cox, Linux Developing Team "The imprisonment of Mr Sklyarov - and this use of the DMCA - represents a threat to the freedom of expression of programmers and software academics everywhere, should we express our views on security issues affecting substandard products which the DMCA is apparently intended to protect and then be foolish enough to visit the US." -- Richard Kay, University of Central England, Birmingham "There is a question whether it will be prudent to hold certain types of security conferences in the U.S. in the future. We can't really tolerate a situation where anyone who breaks a system that embarrasses someone gets served with a writ." -- Ross Anderson, Cambridge University. http://freesklyarov.org/ http://www.xenoclast.org/freesklyarov/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------ From free-sklyarov at effector.xenoclast.org Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:03:20 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:03:20 +0100 (BST) From: Julian T. J. Midgley free-sklyarov at effector.xenoclast.org Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] flyer On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Anton Chterenlikht wrote: > > I can do flyers (probably print one and put on a xerox, the quality is a > bit worse than printed but it very quick, when I was printing the first > ones, a week ago, it took me 10 min for 500 copies), but I need to be > sure that the text is ok. I should be able to print and copy some myself as well. I'll have a look at the wording of this one later today (am a bit tied up with stuff at work at the moment), and see if I can squeeze into a page better. > If you want me to do this, can you please provide me with the final copy > of this flyer. > > Is it ok to send attachments to the list? The list probably won't complain (it has a size limit, but you'll know if you hit that, I think it's around 50kb), but the subscribers might if too many attachments go out. It's probably better to email them to me, and I'll then stick them up on the website for people to download. (Or just stick them up on your website and email the link). All the best, Julian -- Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F From martin at pkl.net Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:04:35 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:04:35 +0100 From: Martin Ling martin at pkl.net Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] flyer On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 06:57:07PM +0100, Anton Chterenlikht wrote: > > I'm not sure it is good. Maybe some quotations sound a bit too > complicated for the London tourists. I think it would benefit greatly from some some indication of how trivial the system he compromised was. The law exists to defend stupidity, and this is in many ways the heart of the problem. Martin From jamp at tardis.ed.ac.uk Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:09:34 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:09:34 +0100 From: Jamie Prady jamp at tardis.ed.ac.uk Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Protests in Edinburgh? There's a U.S. Consulate in Edinburgh. Any chance of organising something for up here? Is this handy for anyone else? Jamie. From a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk Thu Jul 26 12:33:31 2001 From: a.chterenlikht at sheffield.ac.uk (Anton Chterenlikht) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:33:31 +0100 Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] Re: UK Free-Sklyarov Mailing List References: Message-ID: <3B60000B.6573A551@sheffield.ac.uk> Julian T J Midgley wrote: > I have created a mailing list called 'free-sklyarov-uk' for those of us= in > the UK to use for planning protests, etc. > > You can subscribe to the list at: > > http://mailman.xenoclast.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov-uk > > And you will also find links from there to the list archive page, which= > is, of course, currently completely empty. > > Julian Midgley > > -- > Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org > Cambridge, England. PGP Key ID: 0xBCC7863F I've just spoken to Radio Sheffield. As I suspected, they hadn't got a cl= ue of what's going on. They sayd:"so.. he was arrested because.. he has.. stole= n a chip or something.. is that true?". I had only about two minutes to explain my point, I said only about 10% o= f what I wanted. Here is what I wanted to say: --------- It is obvious for everyone now that Dmitry is absolutely innocent. Adobe = said in their last statement: =93Elcomsoft=92s Advanced eBook Processor software = is no longer available in the United States and from that prospective the DMCA worked=94. This means that all Adobe wanted was to stop the selling of Elcomsoft=92s= software! And to get this they acted like hijackers =96 they did not choo= se the person responsible for that software (who obviously would be the director= of Elcomsoft (and I=92d like to remind you that there were 3 people from Elc= omsoft attending this conference and among them was the Elcomsoft=92s director))= =2E So, instead of making the civil case =93Adobe vs Elcomsoft=94 they=92ve c= hosen the most vulnerable person available who was Dmitry (probably if Dmitry would= go there with his family they would arrest his wife and children instead of = him!). They used the power of FBI and created the criminal case =93United States= vs Dmitry Sklyarov=94. This is really terrible. The huge power of FBI was used to protect Adobe financial interests. And this power was used in the most primitive, bruta= l way =96 arrest. I do not believe that Adobe did not know when they complained to FBI that= Dmitry would be arrested because he is Russian. I do not believe that Adobe lawy= ers did not know that Dmitry would not even be released on bail! I think they knew it and they wanted it! This is pure hypocrisy! Just think about this: Dmitry is innocent (even Adobe recognised this and= finally, after a strong pressure from many people and organisations aroun= d the world said that he should be released from the federal custody). Well, I do not need them to know that Dmitry is innocent. I=92ve known hi= m for 10 years now as a bright student at Moscow State Technical University, as a supportive husband and a father of two young children and as a top-level researcher in electronic security. He neither has ever been involved in a= ny =93hacker-cracker=94 groups nor he ever has been involved in any illegal = activities. He is very law-abiding person. So, he is innocent and.. he is in jail, in a foreign country, with poor E= nglish, far away from his family (his wife Oxana and the two children, son Egor, = 2.5 years old and daughter Polina, only 3 mohths old, they have no money to v= isit him even if they will be allowed. At present they aren=92t). There is no reliable information about his whereabouts; no one knows wher= e and when he=92ll turn out next. And all this because one American software gi= ant did not like another Russian software company? Is it fair? How can it be explained that Russian consul still (after 10 days) haven=92= t got a permission to see Dmitry and at the same time one local TV company took a= n interview with Dmitry on Friday or even Thursday last week? Isn=92t it humiliation? I=92m really very worried about Dmitry especially bearing in mind that organisations like FBI never admit that they were wrong! No matter what h= appens =96 they are always right! Now they=92ll try to prove that Dmitry is guil= ty at all costs. I think Adobe is carrying the full responsibility of all this mess. I thi= nk they should pay for the plane tickets for Oxana and her two children so they c= ould come to the USA and Dmitry could be released on bail. He is being treated like a very dangerous criminal! This mis-justice must= not be tolerated! Finally I would like to repeat the words of two of the leading British scientists. Alan Cox, the leading developer of Linux operating system said: =93With t= he arrest of Dimitry Sklyarov it has become apparent that it is not safe for non US= software engineers to visit the United States. While he was undoubtedly c= hosen for political reasons as a Russian as a good example for the US public th= e risk extends arbitrarily further. Until the DMCA mess is resolved I would urge= all non US citizens to boycott conferences in the USA and all US conference b= odies to hold their conferences elsewhere.=94 Ross Anderson, a reader in security engineering at Cambridge University s= aid that "there is a question whether it will be prudent to hold certain type= s of security conferences in the U.S. in the future.(=85) We can't really tole= rate a situation where anyone who breaks a system that embarrasses someone gets = served with a writ." So there is a real threat for all non USA researchers!! And this is happe= ning now!!! All the information is on www.freesklyarov.org ----------- anton