[Free-sklyarov-uk] CD trading standards

Ackroyd, Dan dackroyd at ea.com
Wed, 14 Nov 2001 10:32:03 -0800


Greetings from Vancouver !

>Similarly if you can find any reports that they do not work in 
>portable CD players you will be on to a winner.

I tried the Charley Pride on a Phillips Expanium Mp3 Cd player
(http://www2.consumer.philips.com/global/b2c/ce/catalog/product.jhtml;jsessi
onid=YOVH5VN1BPETYCU1AEVSIIYKTMATSJCK?divId=0&groupId=AUDIO&catId=PORTABLEAU
DIOPRODUCTS&subCatId=MP3CDPLAYERS&productId=EXP103_17) and it totally failed
to read the disc, presumably because it is capable of reading files, so it
accesses the disc just like a PC Cd-rom drive does.

Re: Trading standards
>Okay, I've contacted them again, and got a different person this time.
>After some discussion, she agreed to file a report. Someone will get back
to me in 1-5
>days, apparently.

The first person you speak to when you phone Tradiing Standards up is
basically a secretary/screener to make that is supposed to make sure that
the thing you're complaining about is something Trading Standards should be
dealing with. The person who will get back to you, is an actual Trading
Standards Officer (agent?) who is actually trained to deal with complaints.

btw I prefer the phrase 'corrupted Cds' as it's simple and its puts the
correct (and very simple) idea into peoples heads that the Cds have been
deliberately damaged to prevent them playing correctly.

cheers
dan


-----Original Message-----
From: tobyslater [mailto:mail at tobyslater.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:14 AM
To: free-sklyarov-uk at xenoclast.org
Subject: [Free-sklyarov-uk] CD trading standards


Re: the message below.

I would be very keen to find out whether or not these CDs work in audiophile
high-end players. I have heard that some of these devices use the data
drives more common in CD burners. Some people report that these types of CD
players are not compatible with the corrupt/locked CDs.

Similarly if you can find any reports that they do not work in portable CD
players you will be on to a winner.

But I do think it's justifiable to argue that you use your DVD drive as your
main CD player.

Also I think the best way forward is for everyone to make individual,
personal complaints - ie "I tried to play this CD in my machine and it
didn't work" rather than appealing on a more corporate level - "have you
heard about these new CDs? I hear they don't work."




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>> Well, I've just been on the phone to Trading Standards in
>> Birmingham, and basically they're not interested in taking this up.
>> The guy said that if the CD works in a CD player, it does the job as
>> advertised.  If it doesn't play in DVDs, PS2s, computers, laptops
>> and so on, then this is an issue to be raised with the manufacturers
>> of those devices, not with the CD manufacturer.
> 
> He's a jobsworth.
> 
> Your complaint exhibited something sold in the UK as a CD which did
> not play on a device sold in the UK as suitable for playing CDs.  Ergo
> there is a `trades description' case to answer and it's trading
> standards' job to look into it and hassle at least one of the
> producers in question - or their UK retailers.



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